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PARIS and Native Plug-in Latency
The PARIS app, last updated in 2001, lacks internal latency compensation for either native or internal plugins. PARIS users use different approaches to work around this. They can either avoid the issue by avoiding latency-causing plugins, manually compensate for latency by nudging or sliding the affected audio earlier on the edit screen earlier, or compensate more globally via a system such as Vertex DSP's FaderWorks. Those who want to avoid the issue altogether can simply avoid the plugins marked in red below. Those seeking to manually compensate for latency can look up the exact latency of any particular plugin and nudge their audio earlier by that amount (see important notes in sidebar to right).
FaderWorks acts as a global latency framework. It works by placing a Faderworks plugin on each channel of your mixer; at that point you can use Faderworks to keep track of the latencies of each native plugin added on any track and automatically delay all other channels accordingly (this approach is the opposite of the "manual slide" method; Faderworks can only affect audio that has already passed through the native inserts, so its only choice for compensation is to delay that audio).
Note that when you are "nudging" on the editor screen in PARIS, the "nudge" values are not precise. PARIS power-user DJ explains in depth: "The nudge values are not consistent with what one would expect the samples to be per ms, and they are also not consistent with themselves. Meaning that a 1ms nudge would be expected to be 44 samples [assuming a sample rate of 44.1k] but is actually 80. A 10ms nudge isn't 10 X 80 or 800 samples though, it's actually 480."
DJ: "Using sampleslide to assist the nudge function... for UAD-1 plugins, Sampleslide presets were as follows:"
| Displayed Value | Actual movement in editor |
|---|---|
| "1ms" | 80 samples |
| "5ms" | 240 samples |
| "10ms" | 480 samples |
| "25ms" | 1120 samples |
| "50ms" | 2240 samples |
| "75ms" | 3360 samples |
| "100ms" | 4480 samples |
DJ: "Using sampleslide to assist the nudge function... for UAD-1 plugins, Sampleslide presets were as follows:"
| # | Type | Sampleslide value | Add this much "nudge" in Editor |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Plugin | 1536 | slide 4 x 100ms in Editor |
| 1 | Pultec | 1523 | slide 4 x 100ms in Editor |
| 2 | Plugins | 3072 | slide 8 x 100ms in Editor |
| 2 | Pultecs | 3046 | slide 8 x 100ms in Editor |
| 1 | Plugin 1 Pultec | 3059 | slide 8 x 100ms in Editor |
| 2 | Plugins 1 Pultec | 4595 | slide 12 x 100ms in Editor |
| 2 | Pultecs 1 Plugin | 4582 | slide 12 x 100ms in Editor |
| 3 | Plugins | 4608 | slide 12 x 100ms in Editor) |
| 3 | Pultecs | 4569 | slide 12 x 100ms in Editor) |
| Manufacturer | Plug-in Name | Latency in samples |
|---|---|---|
| D | Limiter | 0 |
| Db | compressor | 0 |
| TL | Saturated Driver | 0 |
| xxx | Simple Limiter | 0 |
| xxx | Soft Overdrive | 0 |
| xxx | Gene comp mono | 0 |
| MDA | dynamics | 0 |
| MDA | loudness | 0 |
| MJ | compressor | 0 |
| MJ | multiband | 0 |
| xxx | Classic_compressor | 0 |
| Camel | Camelphat_free | 0 |
| E_phonic | Xpressor | 0 |
| Mn | CompV1.r | 0 |
| Luxonix | LFX1310 | 0 |
| Chunkware | Vanilla | 44 |
| Kjaerhus | GCO-1 | 0 |
| DSPFX | Studioverb | 0 |
| DSPFX | Acousticverb | 0 |
| DSPFX | Chorus | 0 |
| DSPFX | autopan | 0 |
| DSPFX | Aural Exciter | 0 |
| DSPFX | Delay | 0 |
| DSPFX | Optimizer | 33 |
| DSPFX | Flanger | 1024 |
| Waves | API 550A | 0 |
| Waves | API 550B | 0 |
| Waves | API 560 | 0 |
| Waves | API 2500 | 0 |
| Waves | AudioTrack | 0 |
| Waves | C1 Compressor | 0 |
| Waves | C1 Gate | 0 |
| Waves | C1 Comp-Gate | 340 |
| Waves | C1 Comp-sc | 340 |
| Waves | C4 Multiband | 64 |
| Waves | DeBreath | 32,384 |
| Waves | DeEsser | 0 |
| Waves | Doppler | 0 |
| Waves | Doubler | 0 |
| Waves | Enigma | 0 |
| Waves | GTR3 Amps | 34 |
| Waves | GTR3 Stomps | 0 |
| Waves | GTR2 Amps | 34 |
| Waves | GTR2 Stomps | 0 |
| Waves | IR-1 Convolution Reverb | 0 |
| Waves | IR-L Convolution Reverb | 0 |
| Waves | IR-360 Convolution Reverb | 0 |
| Waves | L1 Ultramaximizer | 64 |
| Waves | L2 Ultramaximizer | 64 |
| Waves | L3 Multimaximizer | 3528 |
| Waves | L3 Ultramaximizer | 3528 |
| Waves | L3-16 Multimaximizer | 6207 |
| Waves | L3-LL Multimaximizer | 64 |
| Waves | L3-LL Ultramaximizer | 64 |
| Waves | Linear Phase Equalizer Broadband | 2679 |
| Waves | Linear Phase Equalizer Lowband | 2047 |
| Waves | Linear Phase Multiband | 3528 |
| Waves | MaxxBass | 0 |
| Waves | MaxxVolume | 64 |
| Waves | MetaFlanger | 0 |
| Waves | MondoMod | 0 |
| Waves | Morphoder | 639 |
| Waves | PAZ Analyzer | 0 |
| Waves | PS22 Split / X-Split | N/A |
| Waves | PS22 Spread | N/A |
| Waves | Q10 | 0 |
| Waves | Q-Clone | 344 |
| Waves | Renaissance Axx | 64 |
| Waves | Renaissance Bass | 0 |
| Waves | Renaissance Channel | 65 |
| Waves | Renaissance Compressor | 64 |
| Waves | Renaissance DeEsser | 64 |
| Waves | Renaissance Equalizer | 0 |
| Waves | Renaissance Reverb | 0 |
| Waves | Renaissance Vox | 64 |
| Waves | S1 Stereo Imager | 0 |
| Waves | SoundShifter | 6946 |
| Waves | SSL E Channel | 0 |
| Waves | SSL G Equalizer | 0 |
| Waves | SSL G Master Buss Compressor | 1 |
| Waves | SuperTap | 0 |
| Waves | TransX Multi | 64 |
| Waves | TransX Wide | 64 |
| Waves | TrueVerb | 0 |
| Waves | UltraPitch | 8239 |
| Waves | V-Comp | 0 |
| Waves | V-EQ3 | 0 |
| Waves | V-EQ4 | 0 |
| Waves | Waves Tune | 3072 |
| Waves | Waves Tune LT | 3072 |
| Waves | X-Click | 2625 |
| Waves | X-Crackle|{background-color:red; color:white}2625 | |
| Waves | X-Hum | 0 |
| Waves | X-Noise | 5120 |
| Waves | Z-Noise | 34,702 |
| Waves | C360 Surround Compressor | 64 |
| Waves | IDR360 Surround Bit Re-Quantizer | 0 |
| Waves | L360 Surround Limiter | 64 |
| Waves | LFE360 Low Pass Filter | 0 |
| Waves | M360 Surround Manager | 0 |
| Waves | M360 Surround Mixdown | 0 |
| Waves | S360 Surround Imager | 0 |
| Waves | S360 Surround Panner | 0 |
| Waves | R360 Surround Reverb | 0 |
